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LCMS Convention Proceedings St. Louis, Missouri — 1965, Page 214
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214 UNPUBLISHED REPORTS AND OVERTURES
E. Thomas
N. Hollywood, Calif.
Freda Hershon
Southern Calif. Dist.
Rev. Walter Otten
Rev. Paul Lehenbauer
Rev. Carl Hoffmeyer
Dr. Warren Hamula
Rev. Roy B. Faulstick
Fred Bendewald
[5-30 Un]
To Petition that the Detroit Convention
Request the President of the District
in Which Dr. Gilbert Thiele Now Holds
Membership to Deal with Him According
to the Synodical “Handbook,” etc.
Wuereas, Dr. Gilbert Thiele has written:
When we so speak, You have an immortal soul which
Christ died to save; and when you die your soul(s) goes
to God and to heaven. Is that not comforting, — when
we so speak, we are essentially speaking the language
of Plato, of Lessing, of the English and Continental En-
lightenment thinkers, of Freemasonry, of the worst of all
early-Church opposition, Gnosticism, and of Docetism.
We think it is consequently fair to say, to put it very
bluntly, that when a man dies he is dead. The Bible
when examined in its length and breadth knows of no
disembodied condition in which man lives temporarily,
and certainly not permanently; it knows of neither a
temporary nor permanent human immortality as such.
(The Seminarian, March 1958, pp. 16, 17)
and
Wuereas, Dr. Thiele has refused to acknowledge and
retract the false doctrine contained in the above state-
ments; and
Wuereas, Committee No.3 of the 1962 Cleveland
convention of The Lutheran Church — Missouri Synod
overlooked the SOC memorial requesting the retrac-
tion of the false doctrine in Dr. Gilbert Thiele’s essay;
and
Wuereas, Dr. Gilbert Thiele has also denied the
resurrection of the flesh:
The phrase “resurrectio carnis” or “anastasis sarkos”
(resurrection of the flesh) is not New Testament. (The
Resurrection of the Body and the Immortality of the Soul,
an essay delivered to the Praesidium of the Missouri
Synod and faculty of Concordia Seminary on May 1,
1958, p. 26)
The over-all New Testament word for that which dies
and is dead is sarx (flesh) ... the sarx is never to be
resurrected, rather to be put off permanently. (Ibid.,
p. 12)
It is clear that this [Christ’s resurrection] was not the
resurrection of “the flesh” but of the body. (Ibid, p.18)
Will there be some sort of mass peregrination to the
throne of God, out of the depths of the sea, out of the in-
numerable graves, catacombs, crypts, urns, and other
places of disposal, is this not too fanciful to bother us,
really? (Ibid., p. 28)
therefore be it
Resolved, That the 1965 Detroit convention of The
Lutheran Church — Missouri Synod request the Presi-
dent of the District of which Dr. Thiele is presently
a member to deal with him according to the synodical
Handbook as one who is guilty of false doctrine.
Mr. & Mrs. Kenneth Marting Rev. Vernon H. Harley
Chicago, Jl. Corpus Christi, Tex.
Mr. & Mrs. Anselm A. Anderson Rev. R. H. Goetjen
St. Paul, Minn.
North Hollywood, Calif.
S. J. Frazen
Baton Rouge, La.
Joseph C. Elias
Elkhart, Ind.
Herman Dittmar
Petoskey, Mich.
Gerhard L. Freundt
Elmwood Park, II.
August H. Koelling
Chicago Heights, Il.
Rev. Robert W. Hill
Paris, Tex.
Harold A. Meyer
Malinta, Ohio
Anita Meyer
Malinta, Ohio
Dave McGuire
Anaheim, Calif.
Arno A. Lehenbauer
St. Louis, Mo.
Joann E. Williams
San Rafael, Calif.
William J. Buescher
Steeleville, Tl.
R. W. Siegert
New Kensington, Pa.
William C. Clark
Indianapolis, Ind.
Evelyn M. Biermann
Burley, Idaho
Edward Kerbs
Burley, Idaho
Mrs. Glenn A. Koch
Burley, Idaho
Donald E. Rehwalt
Burley, Idaho
Eigil Hansen
Burley, Idaho
Emma Wolters
Burley, Idaho
Allan W. Ashton
Burley, Idaho
Paul Werner
Burley, Idaho
Elizabeth Werner
Burley, Idaho
Mr. & Mrs. W. R. Tallefson
Burley, Idaho
Robert F. Schneider
North Hollywood, Calif.
Fred W. Jacobs
Scioto Mills, Ml.
E. F. Siegert
New Kensington, Pa.
Ida E. Siegert
New Kensington, Pa.
Mary S. Kempft
Mt. Clemens, Mich.
Theodore G. Kempft
Mt. Clemens, Mich.
Clifford Armgard
Westmont, II.
Andrea M. Hills
Van Nuys, Calif.
Cora Hills
Van Nuys, Calif.
W. E. Spitzer
San Jose, Calif.
David Dautenhahn
Rolla, Mo.
Esther Buescher
Steeleville, Ill.
Elsie J. Schroeder
Detroit, Mich.
Arthur O. Schroeder
Detroit, Mich.
Arthur E. Schroeder
Detroit, Mich.
Mrs. Charles Staffeldt
Downers Grove, Ill.
Charles F. Staffeldt
Downers Grove, III.
Le URS ONO HES ENO
Alvin T. Perlich
Downers Grove, II.
Clyde R. Sheperd i
Weston, Ohio ;
Magdeline Carter |
Lemont, Ill.
Edmund C. Henrichs
Atkins, Iowa
Bessie M. Genuit
Wauseon, Ohio
Edw. H. Genuit :
Wauseon, Ohio
Mr. & Mrs. E. Maier
Hazelton, Idaho
Mr. & Mrs. Arnold Stratmann
Hampton, Iowa
Paul W. Neipp
Springfield, Ill.
Cleste R. Lewis
Fresno, Calif.
Laurence A. Lewis
Fresno, Calif.
Katherine E. Herfurth
Richmond, Va.
Charles A. Lorenz
Loveland, Tex.
Garry Schol :
Morrison, Ill. :
Donald Martens i
Buhl, Idaho ;
Herman J. Wolff
Kingston, N. Y.
Alfred L. Vonderscheer
Redding, Calif.
Rev. Ernest Schutt (em.)
St. Louis, Mo.
John K. Schmidt
Baton Rouge, La.
Korine Reas
Pontiac, Mich.
A. F. Paasch :
Clinton, Iowa \
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fem OP TONERS EIA
Rev. Arnold H. Gebhardt
Hooper, Nebr.
Louis J. Meyer ;
Springfield, Tl.
Rev. John J. A. McRee :
Catawba, N.C. :
Rev. F. A. Lindenmyr ;
Grant, Nebr.
Margaret Kreckenberg
Lincoln, Nebr.
Stanley P. Koelling
Glendale, N. Y.
Vincent J. Hohmann
North Tonawanda, N.Y.
Mr. & Mrs. E. C. Hill
Littlefield, Tex.
Walter Harmening
South Branch, Minn.
Mrs. Harmon L. Brown
Midland, Mich.
Mr. Russel Barnes
Delhi, Ontario, Can.
Dr. & Mrs. Jack W. Andrews
Costa Mesa, Calif.
Mr. & Mrs. Arthur Abel
Royal, Iowa
Dora Krodel
Hinsdale, Mil.
Mrs. Stewart Hall
Bremen, Ind.
Mr. Larry D. Vinton
Midland, Mich.
Edna Buescher
Steeleville, Il.
Kathryn E. Bliss
Midland, Mich.
Mr. & Mrs. Louis B. Hall
Manhattan Beach, Calif. Pr
Mr. & Mrs. Robert Bernard }:
Manhattan Beach, Calif. .