# LCMS Convention Proceedings_St. Louis Missouri_1965_S214 # Machine transcription, uncorrected — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) 214 UNPUBLISHED REPORTS AND OVERTURES E. Thomas N. Hollywood, Calif. Freda Hershon Southern Calif. Dist. Rev. Walter Otten Rev. Paul Lehenbauer Rev. Carl Hoffmeyer Dr. Warren Hamula Rev. Roy B. Faulstick Fred Bendewald [5-30 Un] To Petition that the Detroit Convention Request the President of the District in Which Dr. Gilbert Thiele Now Holds Membership to Deal with Him According to the Synodical “Handbook,” etc. Wuereas, Dr. Gilbert Thiele has written: When we so speak, You have an immortal soul which Christ died to save; and when you die your soul(s) goes to God and to heaven. Is that not comforting, — when we so speak, we are essentially speaking the language of Plato, of Lessing, of the English and Continental En- lightenment thinkers, of Freemasonry, of the worst of all early-Church opposition, Gnosticism, and of Docetism. We think it is consequently fair to say, to put it very bluntly, that when a man dies he is dead. The Bible when examined in its length and breadth knows of no disembodied condition in which man lives temporarily, and certainly not permanently; it knows of neither a temporary nor permanent human immortality as such. (The Seminarian, March 1958, pp. 16, 17) and Wuereas, Dr. Thiele has refused to acknowledge and retract the false doctrine contained in the above state- ments; and Wuereas, Committee No.3 of the 1962 Cleveland convention of The Lutheran Church — Missouri Synod overlooked the SOC memorial requesting the retrac- tion of the false doctrine in Dr. Gilbert Thiele’s essay; and Wuereas, Dr. Gilbert Thiele has also denied the resurrection of the flesh: The phrase “resurrectio carnis” or “anastasis sarkos” (resurrection of the flesh) is not New Testament. (The Resurrection of the Body and the Immortality of the Soul, an essay delivered to the Praesidium of the Missouri Synod and faculty of Concordia Seminary on May 1, 1958, p. 26) The over-all New Testament word for that which dies and is dead is sarx (flesh) ... the sarx is never to be resurrected, rather to be put off permanently. (Ibid., p. 12) It is clear that this [Christ’s resurrection] was not the resurrection of “the flesh” but of the body. (Ibid, p.18) Will there be some sort of mass peregrination to the throne of God, out of the depths of the sea, out of the in- numerable graves, catacombs, crypts, urns, and other places of disposal, is this not too fanciful to bother us, really? (Ibid., p. 28) therefore be it Resolved, That the 1965 Detroit convention of The Lutheran Church — Missouri Synod request the Presi- dent of the District of which Dr. Thiele is presently a member to deal with him according to the synodical Handbook as one who is guilty of false doctrine. Mr. & Mrs. Kenneth Marting Rev. Vernon H. Harley Chicago, Jl. Corpus Christi, Tex. Mr. & Mrs. Anselm A. Anderson Rev. R. H. Goetjen St. Paul, Minn. North Hollywood, Calif. S. J. Frazen Baton Rouge, La. Joseph C. Elias Elkhart, Ind. Herman Dittmar Petoskey, Mich. Gerhard L. Freundt Elmwood Park, II. August H. Koelling Chicago Heights, Il. Rev. Robert W. Hill Paris, Tex. Harold A. Meyer Malinta, Ohio Anita Meyer Malinta, Ohio Dave McGuire Anaheim, Calif. Arno A. Lehenbauer St. Louis, Mo. Joann E. Williams San Rafael, Calif. William J. Buescher Steeleville, Tl. R. W. Siegert New Kensington, Pa. William C. Clark Indianapolis, Ind. Evelyn M. Biermann Burley, Idaho Edward Kerbs Burley, Idaho Mrs. Glenn A. Koch Burley, Idaho Donald E. Rehwalt Burley, Idaho Eigil Hansen Burley, Idaho Emma Wolters Burley, Idaho Allan W. Ashton Burley, Idaho Paul Werner Burley, Idaho Elizabeth Werner Burley, Idaho Mr. & Mrs. W. R. Tallefson Burley, Idaho Robert F. Schneider North Hollywood, Calif. Fred W. Jacobs Scioto Mills, Ml. E. F. Siegert New Kensington, Pa. Ida E. Siegert New Kensington, Pa. Mary S. Kempft Mt. Clemens, Mich. Theodore G. Kempft Mt. Clemens, Mich. Clifford Armgard Westmont, II. Andrea M. Hills Van Nuys, Calif. Cora Hills Van Nuys, Calif. W. E. Spitzer San Jose, Calif. David Dautenhahn Rolla, Mo. Esther Buescher Steeleville, Ill. Elsie J. Schroeder Detroit, Mich. Arthur O. Schroeder Detroit, Mich. Arthur E. Schroeder Detroit, Mich. Mrs. Charles Staffeldt Downers Grove, Ill. Charles F. Staffeldt Downers Grove, III. Le URS ONO HES ENO Alvin T. Perlich Downers Grove, II. Clyde R. Sheperd i Weston, Ohio ; Magdeline Carter | Lemont, Ill. Edmund C. Henrichs Atkins, Iowa Bessie M. Genuit Wauseon, Ohio Edw. H. Genuit : Wauseon, Ohio Mr. & Mrs. E. Maier Hazelton, Idaho Mr. & Mrs. Arnold Stratmann Hampton, Iowa Paul W. Neipp Springfield, Ill. Cleste R. Lewis Fresno, Calif. Laurence A. Lewis Fresno, Calif. Katherine E. Herfurth Richmond, Va. Charles A. Lorenz Loveland, Tex. Garry Schol : Morrison, Ill. : Donald Martens i Buhl, Idaho ; Herman J. Wolff Kingston, N. Y. Alfred L. Vonderscheer Redding, Calif. Rev. Ernest Schutt (em.) St. Louis, Mo. John K. Schmidt Baton Rouge, La. Korine Reas Pontiac, Mich. A. F. Paasch : Clinton, Iowa \ } fem OP TONERS EIA Rev. Arnold H. Gebhardt Hooper, Nebr. Louis J. Meyer ; Springfield, Tl. Rev. John J. A. McRee : Catawba, N.C. : Rev. F. A. Lindenmyr ; Grant, Nebr. Margaret Kreckenberg Lincoln, Nebr. Stanley P. Koelling Glendale, N. Y. Vincent J. Hohmann North Tonawanda, N.Y. Mr. & Mrs. E. C. Hill Littlefield, Tex. Walter Harmening South Branch, Minn. Mrs. Harmon L. Brown Midland, Mich. Mr. Russel Barnes Delhi, Ontario, Can. Dr. & Mrs. Jack W. Andrews Costa Mesa, Calif. Mr. & Mrs. Arthur Abel Royal, Iowa Dora Krodel Hinsdale, Mil. Mrs. Stewart Hall Bremen, Ind. Mr. Larry D. Vinton Midland, Mich. Edna Buescher Steeleville, Il. Kathryn E. Bliss Midland, Mich. Mr. & Mrs. Louis B. Hall Manhattan Beach, Calif. Pr Mr. & Mrs. Robert Bernard }: Manhattan Beach, Calif. .