# LCMS Convention Workbook_St. Louis Missouri_1973_S48 # Machine transcription, uncorrected — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) a 48 THEOLOGY AND CHURCH RELATIONS Committee to Evaluate the Lutheran Council in the U. S.A. was appointed. Missouri Synod representatives on that com- mittee were Dr. Roland Wiederaenders, Dr. Milton Car- penter, Dr. Herbert Mueller, The interchurch committee divided itself into three sub- committees: (1) Constitutional Questions, (2) Program Evaluation, (3) Fiscal Policies and Procedures. Although subcommittee 2 was not able to complete its work, the Committee met several times in plenary and presented its report at the cut-off date to the three church body presi- dents. They in turn submitted it to the Executive Commit- tee of the Lutheran Council. In the meantime, the annual meeting of the Council early in 1971 had authorized a study of “the proliferation of inter-Lutheran activities outside the framework of the Council.” When it became apparent that many overtures to the 1971 convention of the Missouri Synod were calling for a thorough study and evaluation of the Council itself, an executive directive enlarged the scope of the February directive to include a broad self-study of the Council. The results of this self-study, conducted largely by Council staff, were also submitted to the Executive Committee of LCUSA. The Executive Committee distilled these two reports, added observations and conclusions of its own, and decided to submit this material through the General Secretary for reaction to four consultations: (1) A consultation of service beneficiaries of LCUSA (e. g., welfare associations, etc.) (2) A consultation of members of standing committees of LCUSA (3) A consultation of church body program executives, such as missions, public relations, ete, (4) A consultation of the staff of LCUSA. The results of these consultations were synthesized by the General Secretary who presented the consensus report and recommendations to the Executive Committee, The Executive Committee again combed through this material and proposed recommendations to the 1973 annual meeting of the Council. In can be readily seen that in this long and tedious process some of the concrete suggestions hammered out in the small subcommittees of the original Interchurch Com- mittee to Evaluate LCUSA were diffused. As a result, it would seem that not much change of a substantive nature has resulted, at least not in the direction of simplification. This also means that it continues to be difficult, in the minds of the Missouri Synod participants, to properly evaluate the Council as requested in Res. 3-18. These insights were shared as directed by the 1971 con- vention resolution with the Board of Directors. The board in turn now submits the following report and recommenda- tion to the New Orleans convention: The Board of Directors is of the opinion that at the present moment in history the Synod may well regard its participation in LCUSA as primarily an investment in inter-Lutheran relationships in the United States. Furthermore, there are practical benefits which have resulted and which may result from our Participation in the Council. It must be admitted, however, that it has been extremely difficult because of varying structures and of differing budget approaches to pinpoint not only the specific programs and activities but above all their specific cost, which in turn would enable the Synod to make a more reasoned judgment as to the value of any specific program or activity. Over against this, it should be noted that the Board of Directors’ own approach to budgeting has already yielded better results in effecting savings and better coordination of effort and we are also given the assurance that as time oes on the budgeting in the Lutheran Council will delve to a deeper level at which it will be easier to determine the cost of individual programs and activities. Both the Synod and the Council to make better judgments on the extent of the Synod’s participation in the Programs and activities of LCUSA. Therefore, the Board of Directors recommends that the Synod continue its membership in the Council and that the Synod give the Board of Directors and through it all boards and commissions the directive to keep the programs and activities of the Council under constant scrutiny to help determine in which of these the Synod should participate in order to receive the utmost advan- tage from every dollar invested from the monies con- tributed by God’s people. Boarp oF Directors Herbert Mueller, Secretary 2-06 Report of LCMS Representatives to the ALC-LCMS Commission on Fellowship In accord with Resolution 3-21 of the 1971 Milwaukee convention of Synod, the commission which was established to “assist the church bodies in the proper understanding and practice of fellowship” continued to meet. The members from the American Lutheran Church graciously acceded to our requests to meet and cooperated wholeheartedly in answering questions and studying issues. The intention to meet more frequently was hampered by the extended illness and death of Dr. Kent Knutson. Nevertheless, meetings were held in Chicago on Dec. 9 of 1971, Feb, 24—25, April 21—23 of 1972, and Jan. 19, 1973. Another meeting is scheduled for April 26—27, 1973. The LCMS representatives on the com- mission are President J. A. O. Preus, Vice-Presidents Theo- dore F. Nickel and W. Harry Krieger, Drs. Richard Schultz and Ralph Bohlmann, and Pastor Richard Warneck. The LCMS commissioners attempted faithfully to convey and interpret the action of the Milwaukee convention re- garding fellowship with the ALC. The request that the ALC reconsider its action regarding the ordination of women to the pastoral tinistry was presented as a matter of serious concern. The ALC commissioners expressed willingness to discuss the matter, pointing out that only a synodical convention of the ALC could properly decide whether or not to reconsider the action of a previous con- vention. On Oct. 21, 1971, the Church Council of the ALC issued a statement entitled “Fellowship with The Lutheran Church — Missouri Synod, Guidelines for Development.” Therein the ALC Church Council reiterated its desire to maintain and improve fellowship with the LCMS and its congrega- tions. It restated the position of the ALC that the ordina- tion of women lies within the freedom of administration of the churches and does not involve the authority of Scripture. Moreover, the ALC Church Council specifically requested “a formal statement on the understanding of the basis for fellowship from The Lutheran Church — Missouri Synod in order to ascertain whether or not the Missouri Synod has changed its position since the declaration in 1969.” From this exploration of the issues as each group of commissioners saw them, the agenda for the meetings during the biennium was established. The issues which surfaced were: The Ordination of Women to the Pastoral Ministry as a Doctrinal or Administrative Concern, The Basis of Fellow- ship, and The Doctrine of the Word and the Nature of Scriptural Authority. The following papers were read and discussed in the meetings: 1. “What Do the Scriptures Say About the Ministry of Women in the Church?” — pr. Joseph Burgess. 2.“‘An Explanation of the Position of The Lutheran Church — Missouri Synod on the Ordination of Women to the Pastoral Office,” together with documentary exhibits — Dr. Ralph Bohlmann. 3. “The Position of The Lutheran Church — Missouri Synod on the Basis for Fellowship,” together with docu- mentary exhibits— Dr. Ralph Bohlmann. 4. “Reflections on the Theological Basis for Church Fel- lowship” — Dr. William Weiblen. 5. “Some Questions and Comments on Dr. William Weib- len’s Reflections on the Theological Basis for Church Fellow- ship” — Dr. Ralph Bohlmann. 6. “Orders of Creation and the Principle of Ordination as it Pertains to Ministry” —Dr. Martin H. Scharlemann (guest consultant). 7. “Some Observations on the Orders of Creation and the