# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_April 1859_S125 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) 125. (From the new Zeitblatt of Münkel in Oiste, near Verden.) The Kirchentag at Hamburg. This year, for the first time, it happened to the Kirchentag that it met with a very inhospitable reception. Hamburg had been chosen for the gathering, in part no doubt, in order to bear witness in this spiritually decayed city and to turn a blessing toward it. Precisely for that reason, and all the more violently, opposition stirred, which could scarcely be so far appeased that the Kirchentag received a decent reception at all. It had to hear said against it what the majority of its own members never tire of reproaching the Lutherans with — that it is too exclusive. That may serve it as a lesson, how far one must go if one wishes to escape that reproach. Nevertheless, we see in the hostility which it encountered in a city like Hamburg a good sign, that there is still some salt in it, which perhaps also held back, a little, the decay in Hamburg. Less, indeed, may the proceedings themselves have contributed to that than the sermons, which were delivered by capable preachers, and the bearing of the Kirchentag itself. If the Kirchentag was this time stormy from without, it enjoyed all the greater calm within. In this it was the opposite of the previous year's Kirchentag at Stuttgart, where it was indeed received with great honors, but fell into violent internal discord. It remains an open question whether Stahl, Hengstenberg, and others were missed this time at Hamburg as a result of that discord, so as to give the Kirchentag a lesson through their absence. It seems, however, that it had already given itself that lesson beforehand. The subjects for discussion were chosen with deliberate care, so as not to give occasion for new divisions, especially in Hamburg. On the agenda stood: the claim of congregations to special pastoral care, the abuse of judicial oaths, the union of ecclesiastical and civil parish offices, and the Christian's relation to temporal goods. We cannot go further into the treatment of these subjects; it bore witness to skillful hands, and certainly yielded its profit. One notices only that the Kirchentag has come down several steps from the height above the times which it wishes to occupy. Burning church questions, questions that stir the age, it has avoided, and has occupied itself instead with matters of the second and third rank, so that it has drawn nearer to the ordinary ministerial conferences. It could hardly have done otherwise, if it wished to preserve domestic peace. Weighty church questions would also rouse the parties and threaten the life of the Kirchentag, which already at Stuttgart seemed on the point of expiring. But what will be the consequence of this? The Kirchentag will have to give up its ecclesiastical protectorate, which it has exercised these ten years not without presumption, and the churches will be freed from its guardianship. It will still cost it some effort before it yields room to that conviction. Even this year, when it condescended to move its chair somewhat lower, it had another impulse to raise itself, for a few minutes, back to its old height. The matter concerned giving a lesson to stubborn Lutheran Mecklenburg, which has always shown itself so unyielding toward the Kirchentag, so that it might feel what power it had defied. The Kirchentag, undeterred by the many voices that rose against it in its own midst, resolved by majority vote on a declaration of censure against the Mecklenburg government on account of the dismissal from office of Baumgar-