# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_December 1864_S368 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) 368 Correspondence from Germany. was debated purely on doctrine. Fifteen members of the assembly stood on the Breslau side, five on ours; on that side Huschke, Nagel, and Besser led the discussion, on ours Lohmann, Frischmuth, and I. But as much as the honesty is to be acknowledged with which not only our opponents let us come to speak and to bear witness to our faith, but also, for their part, seemed only to be voicing what had become to them a genuine conviction, just as deeply distressing and dispiriting to us was the experience that formed the result of all our negotiations: that the grave error in the doctrine of church and ministry had taken hold of the spirit of our opponents so deeply and so completely that we succeeded, in no way whatsoever, in breaking even the smallest gap in the closed wall of their system; with admirable and alarming skill in dialectic, Director Huschke in particular knew how to evade all our arguments and slip away by side paths. The expression of the Symbolical Books, "the true church," was misinterpreted to mean only this: "the church rightly constituted," that is, the believers, who are members of the church as they ought to be, which did not exclude that unbelievers, too, are members of the body of Christ, only not proper ones, as they ought to be. In this interpretation of the Symbolical Books we could naturally not yield a finger's breadth; despite all loud protest the opponents nevertheless did not give way, but rather claimed the wording of the Symbolical Books for themselves with great confidence, as they pretended, so that in the end nothing was left for us but the declaration that we could not let ourselves be led astray in our understanding of the Symbolical Books, but had to persist in it as a simple conviction of conscience. We closed the negotiations with the deeply humbling impression that our testimony of faith had remained wholly fruitless, and that rather everything we had spoken had, as it were, rebounded off an iron wall. We had hoped that some members of the Breslau party would at least rise up against the harshest points of Huschke's system and unite with us in a testimony against such claims, in part unheard-of until now in the domain of our church. But in vain. There are, to be sure, without doubt some who do not fully agree with Huschke, but some do not sufficiently recognize the actual roots of the false, or respectively the pure, doctrine in the points in question, so as to arrive at an independent judgment; others are so entirely overawed and dominated by Huschke's learning and dialectic that no one dares even to open his mouth against it, to speak quite literally. — So matters stand as of now; today the synod itself has been opened, and I hope that within a few days the question of our separation from Breslau will be decided. By the next mail packet I will send you word of it, as I hope, before your synod in Fort Wayne adjourns. The prospect for the better is slight. The Breslau party itself has done what we did not think conceivably possible: they have submitted a motion to the synod that it should, that is, adopt Huschke's doctrine of church and ministry with the rejection of the