# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_August 1863_S227 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) Theological Axioms. 227 49. Quod alienae fidei committitur, nequaquam amittitur. (P. Tarnov.) What one entrusts to another, one does not thereby lose. 50. If one came among a crowd where there were no Christians, one might do as the apostles did, and not wait for a call. For there one does not yet have the office of preaching. And suppose one said: Here there are no Christians; I will preach and instruct them in Christianity — and a crowd gathered together, chose and called me to be their bishop: then I would have a call. (Luther.) 51. Aliud est, habere aliquid, aliud est, non jure habere vel illicite usurpare. (Augustinus.) It is one thing to have something; it is another thing not to have it rightfully, or to make use of it unlawfully. 52. Discrepat τὸ rectum in actu et τὸ ratum. (Dannhauer.) What is right in use and what is valid are distinct from one another. 53. Licet ordinatio non faciat vocationem, si tamen quis legitime vocatus, ille ritus est declaratio et publica confirmatio, vocationem illam, quae praecessit, esse legitimam. (Chemnitius.) Although ordination does not make the call, yet, when someone has been lawfully called, that rite is a declaration and public confirmation that the call which preceded it is a lawful one. 54. Ultro admittimus, non esse praecise et absolute necessariam ordinationem, neque praecepto niti divino, aut juris esse divini, sed ecclesiastici, adeoque ritum esse indifferentem. (Calov.) We freely grant that ordination is not altogether and absolutely necessary, nor rests upon a divine command, nor is a matter of divine right, but of ecclesiastical right — indeed, that it is an indifferent custom. 55. Es liegt daran, ob die Kirche und der Bischof eins sind und die Kirche den Bischof hören und der Bischof die Kirche lehren wolle. So ist's geschehen. Auflegen der Hände, die segnen, bestätigen und bezeugen solches, wie ein Notarius und Zeugen eine weltliche Sache bezeugen, und wie der Pfarrherr, so Braut und Bräutigam segnet, ihre Ehe bestätiget oder bezeuget, daß sie zuvor sich genommen haben und öffentlich bekannt; es sei nun der Pfarrherr ein Engel oder Teufel, weil das Amt geschehen, so ist die Braut gesegnet. (Luther.) It all depends on whether the church and the bishop are one, and the church is willing to hear the bishop and the bishop to teach the church. That is how it comes about. The laying on of hands blesses, confirms, and bears witness to this, just as a notary and witnesses bear witness to a worldly matter, and just as the parson, in blessing bride and bridegroom, confirms or attests their marriage — that they have already taken each other and made it publicly known; whether the parson be an angel or a devil, since the office has taken place, the bride is blessed. (Luther.) 56. Ob prolationem certorum verborum, vel numeratam gesticulationem gratiam quandam ordinandos irruere, nec credunt catholici, nec ex apostolorum ritu quisquam hactenus probavit. (Huelsemann.) That, on account of the utterance of certain words or of certain gestures, a certain grace should fall upon those being ordained, the orthodox do not believe, nor has anyone yet proved it from the practice of the apostles.