# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_Juni 1863_S162 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) 162 Theological Axioms. the former does not obtain in time of persecution and overwhelming corruptions, the latter nevertheless always obtains in the Church. 62. O beatum schisma, per quod Christo et verae catholicae ecclesiae uniti sumus! (Gerhard.) O blessed division, through which one is united with Christ and the true universal Church! 63. Non negamus, ecclesiae catholicae titulum latiore quodam significatu extendi ad universalem coetum hominum legitime baptizatorum. (Aeg. Hunnius.) We do not deny that the title of the catholic Church, in a broader sense, extends to the whole company of rightly baptized men. 64. Die rechte Lehre und Kirche wird oft so gar untergedruckt und verloren, wie unterm Pabstthum geschehen, als sei keine Kirche, und läßt sich oft ansehen, als sei sie gar untergangen. (Apologie der A. C.) The right doctrine and the Church are often so utterly suppressed and lost, as happened under the papacy, that it seems as if there were no Church, and it often looks as though it had perished altogether. (Apology of the Augsburg Confession.) 65. Fieri potest, ac divinitus praedictum est, fore, ut ecclesia aliquamdiu nulla sui parte sit visibilis, seu ut ecclesia visibilis prorsus deficiat. (Baier.) It can happen — and it has been foretold by God that it will happen — that the Church for a time is visible in none of its parts, or that the visible Church altogether ceases to be. 66. Ecclesia catholica non deficit. (Kromayer.) The catholic Church does not cease to be. 67. Ecclesia catholica et invisibilis, quae ab orbe condito fuit et duratura est usque ad consummationem seculi, in fundamento fidei simul et semel non erravit, non errat, nec deficere aut exscindi potest. (Quenstedt.) The catholic and invisible Church, which has existed from the beginning of the world and will endure to the end of the world, has never erred in the foundation of the faith, all together and at once; it does not err, nor can it cease to be or be rooted out. 68. Quamvis etiam interdum corruptelae totam visibilem ecclesiam et publicum ejus ministerium in omnibus omnium locorum particularibus ecclesiis occupent, ita ut nullibi supersit purum et incorruptum ministerium, nunquam tamen tota ecclesia sic errat, ut non sint, qui, simplicem verbi ductum sequentes, spiritus sancti directione et efficaci operatione in veritate et fide eo modo sanctificentur, ut fundamentum salutis retineant, ab erroribus fundamentalibus immunes perseverent ac virtute Dei per fidem ad salutem conserventur, licet illi nonnunquam pauci sint, ac, persecutionibus et corruptelis publice grassantibus, ita lateant, ut publice coram mundo non agnoscantur. (Gerhard.) Although at times the corruptions also oc-