# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_August 1861_S238 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) 238 Dr. Huschke against Pastor Diedrich. church government, and against a government which defends this false doctrine and takes its stand upon it, is represented as perverse, by saying: what, then, will these people do who reject the Upper Church Council and withdraw from it, where will they end up? — and when one tries to draw from this an argument against their struggle because they have not yet devised any other church constitution. All this proceeds from the assumption that an outward legal constitution of the church is a necessary condition of her existence. But precisely this is the error under attack. And the reformers — did they have a plan for another churchly arrangement ready when they began to attack the papacy? No; rather they left it to the Lord what He would do, and did what God's Word and their conscience required of them. — That all locally neighboring congregations of the same confession will enter into a relation with one another, and that certain forms of their fellowship will take shape, remains undisputed and happens naturally; but it is just as certain that no worldly-formed government is needed to mediate a blessed fellowship of Christian congregations, as the examples of the Lutheran congregations in America and in Australia prove. That the wish to abolish the U.C.C. was not the starting point of the struggle, for this I appeal to a definite statement of Pastor Wolf in the Kirchenzeitung für Lutheraner of last year, p. 42 (at the foot), where he testifies that it does not matter to him whether the U.C.C. be abolished, but that he only does not want it to be placed upon the ground of a doctrinal opinion which he recognizes as contrary to Scripture and at variance with our Lutheran confession. And Pastor Diedrich told me orally in Breslau that for all he cared the U.C.C. might stand another twenty years. And I say here: if the U.C.C. rejects the doctrine of church government contrary to the confession which we contest, then we will gladly keep it; whatever must be changed for the good of doctrine will then soon be recognized and altered. As for the passages from Luther's writings which the author brings forward to confirm his opinion, some of these too admit of a quite different interpretation; and it is easy to adduce many sayings of Luther which are thoroughly unfavorable to the author's opinion. But we will first see what our confessions teach; and when we have grasped their sense, then we will look at Luther's writings; for then we shall have the right eyes for it. In closing this notice I recall that the church councilor Pastor Lasius, my dear friend, in the K.-Bl. of the year before last, p. 206 f. — sharply as he had censured Pastor Diedrich for his attacks upon the synodical resolutions — nevertheless acknowledges that Pastor Diedrich in his discussions of the principles of church government and church constitution has said "much that is correct and important." He testifies there also that Pastor Diedrich brings nothing new, but "the clear doctrine