# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_Juni 1861_S173 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) On the Question of the Ministry and Its Consequences. 173 things that are already condemned in the seventeenth article of the Augsburg Confession ... The matter concerns, as is afterward admitted as well, a wholly different conception of Holy Scripture, particularly of the prophetic word. It concerns two fundamentally different kinds of Christianity. For to interpret the prophets .. on fundamentally different principles yields a different Christ; for Christ is, by his own declaration, precisely the fulfillment of the prophets. Now the chiliasts read out a wholly different Christ from our poor one of Nazareth; they get one with great splendor and high power outwardly already in this world, and him we reject as a false Christ ... In that essay the chiliasts claim true progress for themselves over against our false stability, and exhort us to the modesty of harboring mistrust against what we call pure doctrine ... They think we have the fathers (tradition) for us, while they have biblical Christianity. Extraordinarily modest .. In our opinion our forefathers rejected chiliasm precisely on the ground of Scripture. But the chiliasts speak against us and our forefathers just as contemptuously as the rationalists once did .. Let our opponents only not act as though they were the biblical ones and a certain Luther had simply not known the Bible aright ... Löhe calls our old doctrine an old homespun faith, says that in sickness the Spirit gave him new illuminations which the others have not had; speaks of a new outpouring of the Spirit against which we harden ourselves; preaches a Christ with whom Jew and Greek count for something, indeed one who is yet first to bring the true glory — far beyond that in the word of truth — by an appearing within this world-order; preaches a church that is to have her glory in wondrous appearances and outward forms, and her highest beauty in the Jewish nation. We ask him for God's sake, is that merely a different tendency? And what is a different tendency in the church of Christ? .. We trust to Löhe's human honorableness that he will acknowledge the fact along with us, that we are going different ways („„as we have just heard from a sure source, Löhe has affirmed this as self-evident““), that we form and lead souls in divergent directions if we both go on as we are .. No, it is not toleration from us that the chiliasts desire, as they pretend, but unconditional dominion over us. We can tolerate them, and have done so for many a year. Now they demand in God's name that their spiritual inspirations be acknowledged as high progress ... Our opponents say openly that they mean to improve the inherited Lutheranism by chiliasm; and we maintain that by this they entirely overturn it — far more, indeed, than if someone brought in old Reformed or Roman matter. Ehlers thinks ... the chiliasts do after all expressly accept the Confessions, so we should have to recognize them that far. Here it comes to light with what right he reproaches us with being doctrinaires who cling slavishly to the old. And are the whole Confessions worth nothing if a man accepts them outwardly and in a