# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_October 1858_S293 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) What Is Now Meant by the Development of the Doctrine of the Luth. Church? 293 of men; so this distress was, in truth and reality, not his own, so that as regards his own person he could, at every moment, even more than Elijah, have been taken up into heaven without death — and yet he made it so ethically his own at all times that it was his, and he really took it upon himself and endured it even unto death. But I break off here, and remark only further that in your endeavor to empty out the human nature of Christ entirely into the depth of our flesh as it then was, I cannot follow you for this reason: that your conception of the human nature of Christ is naturally not suited to express, or even further to develop, the ancient churchly doctrine of the Lutheran Church (of the Reformed Church, that might rather be so). Here you posit a complete novum. For the nature of Christ, so much in need of redemption and subject to death, as you present it, is scarcely suited, according to the ancient churchly system, to lay claim to that twofold significance according to which it not only had, in general, a purely human excellence, but was also, through its union with the Logos, conceived of as participating in the properties of the divine nature in the state of humiliation. And it is for this reason alone — to demonstrate that on your premises you cannot arrive at the ancient churchly dogma at all — that I have touched on this passage at all. In § 40 you speak of how church Christology suffers from a chief defect. "The divine towers, as it were, over the human, as a wide circle over a narrow one; it goes, in its knowing, living, and working, infinitely far beyond it, as the extra-historical over the temporal, as the in-itself-completed over the becoming, as the all-fulfilling and all-determining over the conditioned. The consciousness that the Son has of himself and of his universal governance does not coincide as one with that of the historical Christ; it hovers, as it were, above him. There is here a twofold mode of sense, a double life, a doubled consciousness, and so forth." You postulate another subject — and find it. "He, the eternal Son of God, the second person of the Godhead, has given himself over into circumscribedness, and thereby into the confines of a spatio-temporal existence, under the conditions of a human development, into the bounds of a historical existence, in order, in the fullest sense of the word, to live through the life of our race in our nature, without thereby ceasing to be God. He has, in order to realize this, emptied himself — but not of that which is essential to the Godhead in order to be God; he has, however, emptied himself of the divine glory that he had from the beginning with the Father, and that he exercised, ruling and governing, over against the world. This spatio-temporally limited mode of existence, by virtue of which he is this man, he has exchanged for its opposite, the being in heaven with the Father. That is the incarnation. Thus the Logos become man has not reserved for himself, outside the human kind assumed by him, any special being-for-himself, any special consciousness, any special sphere of action or possession of power; he does not exist, anywhere,