# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_April 1858_S112 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) 112 On Lay Elders or Congregational Overseers. That the institution of lay elders, in keeping with the peculiar circumstances of America, has always been in vogue here, is well known. Mr. D. M. N. N. Mühlenberg of Reading, Pa., has had the kindness to present to us as well the work so important for the history of the American Lutheran Church: "Reports from the United German Evangelical Lutheran Congregations in North America. With a Preface by D. J. L. Schulze. Halle, 1787," quarto. *) In this work is found, among other things, a congregational constitution drawn up by the late Dr. Heinrich Melchior Mühlenberg for the German Evangelical Lutheran congregation at St. Michael's Church in Philadelphia, from the year 1762. It states there, among other things, that already in the year 1743 "a number of loyal-minded and helpful members had been appointed as elders," but that now "a complete Christian church order and discipline, suited to the circumstances of this land," had been called for. Of the "ruling elders" it says there: "Their duties are, among others, the following: 1. by God's grace they shall strive to preside, both over their own households and over the congregation, with a Christian life and conduct; 2. together with the teachers, to see to it that evangelical doctrine and Christian discipline are preserved and propagated in the congregation; 3. that the debts .. be reduced and paid off; 4. that the laborers in the Word of God within the congregation conduct themselves according to Christ's command; 5. that a lawful account be kept of all income accruing in this congregation, as well as of all expenditure, etc.; 6. they shall attend the school examinations, as well as the annual synodical meetings, through several deputies elected from among themselves by the church council, and shall help to further all other necessary matters serving the welfare and prosperity of the congregation." Alongside these "ruling elders" there also functioned "overseers," who had more the character of deacons. (See the same work, p. 962 ff.) — What has been cited should now suffice to show: 1. that the institution of a so-called lay presbyterate is by no means, as is here and there maintained, specifically Reformed or anti-Lutheran; 2. that it has, rather, existed in many places both outside of and alongside the consistories within the Lutheran Church as well; and finally 3. what functions were, as a rule, assigned to it. By way of appendix, we now let follow a few passages from the church fathers, which prove that the ancient church too, down into the 4th century, had so-called lay presbyters or seniors. Ambrose (d. 397) — or whoever it is whose relevant writing has come down to us under Ambrose's name — writes: "Among all peoples without exception, old age is venerable; hence also the synagogue (the Jewish church), and afterward the (Christian) church, has had seniors, without whose *) For which we hereby publicly express to the Herr Doctor our most obliged thanks. The Editors.