# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_April 1858_S103 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) Answer to a Voice from the Lutheran Church of Germany, etc. 103 ...whole (naturally the territorial church, or an ecclesiastical association of several individual congregations, a synod) is represented in its head and supreme authority; and indeed you do this to such a degree that you thoroughly abhor our constitution — which rests, as a free union of the individual congregations, upon the one confession, and is rooted in unity of spirit and in the need that the gifts should show themselves for the common good — but which, in accordance with Scripture, the Symbols, and apostolic practice, leaves to the congregations, not indeed, as you imagine, without paternal oversight, but certainly without any decreeing intervention by commanding authorities binding in church law, the supreme judgment in matters of the church. We are, to be sure, far from wishing to deny that an episcopal constitution, too, could be built up on a genuinely evangelical foundation, de jure humano, and that such a one, historically arisen, has existed and could still exist. So too are we far from agreeing, with some of the more recent Lutheran theologians who wish to be regarded as pillars, or who are indeed all but taken for such, in unhistorically enough deriving all the present misery of the Lutheran Church of Germany from its original territorial-consistorial constitution; rather, we are of the firm conviction that a consistorial constitution, too, can exist and has existed in a genuinely evangelical sense and spirit, and that the original consistorial constitution of the German Lutheran territorial churches was at first just such a one. But then, both the episcopal and the consistorial constitution rest upon the principle that the bishops or consistories, as representatives, administer only powers and rights that are foreign to them, entrusted to them — namely, precisely the rights of the individual congregations — and only so long as this principle is preserved and actually brought into practice do those constitutions retain their evangelical character; and demonstrably the state-church-like misery of the German Lutheran territorial churches stems precisely from the abandonment and surrender of that principle, from the sorry time when the consistories became all-powerful heads, decreeing simply and arbitrarily, of the dead machine of the state church. Now when you further assert that we, with our principle and our practice of the self-government of the individual congregations and their free union in love, on the ground of and for the preservation of the one, pure, Scripture-conformed confession, depart from the whole eighteen-hundred-year course of Christian and ecclesiastical order hitherto; and when, to prove this, you yourself appeal to the apostolic church and raise the question, "where, according to the whole order of the church since the days of the apostles, has a mere local congregation ever had such power and authority in matters of the church? — then we cannot indeed refrain from a measure of righteous astonishment and wonder. You proceed from the view that the apostolic congregations, even if not formally expressed and fully developed, nevertheless already had, in essence, the diocesan-episcopal constitution, in that the apostles were their episcopal princes of the church, in wel-