# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_M rz 1858_S85 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) On Lay Elders or Congregation Presidents. 85 Just as in 2 Cor. 12:28 helpers and governors are listed alongside the teachers, and just as, besides the priests, the elders of the people cared for the outward Jewish worship, Matt. 21:23, so one reads in Augustine, in the third book against Cresconius, of church elders of the Mascitan district." (Bibl. illustrat. ad l. c.) Georg Weinrich (Doctor and Professor of Theology at Leipzig, d. 1617) writes on 1 Tim. 5:17: "The Apostle makes two kinds of presbyters: the one, which chiefly occupied itself with investigating and judging the disputes arising among the brethren, of the sort that are used for church courts. The others, however, are those who labored at the word and at teaching." (Comment. in epp. Paulin. ad l. c.) Johann Quistorp (Professor at Rostock, d. 1648) writes on the very same passage: "He (Paul) designates two kinds of elders. The proper name of the latter, who do not teach but preside over church discipline and morals, I find nowhere; but who they were can be recognized from the practice of the church. Thus it is said, Acts 15:6, that the elders came together with the apostles to hear the contending parties. They were those men who governed the church together with the apostles, and who, beyond doubt, were especially respected men from among the believers, who presided over the improvement of morals — more prudent than learned men. Just as today the consistories are made up of ecclesiastical and political persons." (Comment. in omnes Pauli epp. ad l. c.) Sal. Glassius (General Superintendent at Gotha, d. 1656) writes on Rom. 12:8: "Προϊστάμενοι are those who were set over the maintenance of discipline and good order in the church, of the sort the governors alongside the pastors (to whom this care is entrusted) are, who serve as president and assessor in the church consistories." (Meditation. sacr. super Epp. Dominical. Jena 1636. p. 365.) Daniel Arcularius (Professor at Marburg, d. 1596) writes on Acts 14:23: "The presbyters (in Latin they are called seniores) were those who either administered the teaching office in the church and are called by another name, pastors or bishops, or who were assigned as adjuncts to the pastors or ministers of the word (adjuncti) and were accustomed to exercise the censure of morals and to uphold discipline, 1 Tim. 5. One may well assume that here (Acts 14:23) both were chosen by the apostles and set over the individual churches." *) (Acta app. triumvirali commentario. illustrata II, 337.) Conrad Dannlauer (Professor at Strasbourg, d. 1666) writes in his *) In what follows Arcularius shows that the apostles set presbyters over the churches in such a way that they let the people's choosing by show of hands go before it.