# LCMS Commission on Constitutional Matters Minutes_St. Louis Missouri_March 27 1993_S1 # Machine transcription, uncorrected — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) 21. Opening Prayer At the request of Chairman Groh, Roland Hopmann led the members of the Commission on Constitutional Matters in prayer asking for God's blessing and guidance upon the deliberations by the Commission with regard to matters which would be coming before it. 22. Congregation Constitution-Request by District Commission for Opinion (Ag. 1946) : The Chairman of the Michigan District Constitution Review Committee had asked the Commission to respond to an article on authority in the congregation which appeared in a proposed congregational constitution. It was stated that the article was not clear and that it could be misleading. Particular attention was called to the statement that a congregation "may" provide for its needs by the organization of officers, boards, etc. Also involved was the matter of all communicant members, no matter what their age, being involved in the calling of commissioned or certified workers. The major concern, however, centered around the paragraph which stated If the matter is not clearly settled in God's Word, a vote determines what the consensus is, but carries no authority to impose a decision on others (Romans 12: 10, 1 Peter 5:5). For the sake of good order the congregation normally consents to the decision of the pastor and assisted by the elders. The voters may appeal to the congregation. The congregation may not decide anything contrary to the Word of God and the confessional writings of the Lutheran Church. On matters not pertaining to doctrine or conscience, the pastor and elders should submit to the consensus of the congregation. The Chairman of the Michigan District Constitution Review Committee had suggested an alternate wording for the above paragraph which stated All other matters brought to the voters shall be decided by simple majority of the qualified voting members present at a properly convened meeting of the congregation, except as otherwise provided in this constitution and its associated bylaws. All matters of doctrine shall be decided by the Word of God; and in any case, no decision shall be contrary to Article III of this constitution. Also suggested were the following items to be placed in brackets [In matters of doctrine, the pastor and elders should not submit to the consensus of the congregation-but pastor, elders, and congregation submit to the Word.] [All communicant members presumably include those who would otherwise be under the legal age limit for full suffrage rights. We have no objection to participation of teens in the process, but "under-age" voting would leave an opening for a challenge to the election.] As a personal response, the Secretary of the Synod had, after indicating that the Commission on Constitutional Matters ordinarily does not consider reviews of the constitutions of individual congregations, had provided the following response: As a personal response to the suggestions which have been offered, I wish to merely commend you for the proposed change. It is, in my opinion, far superior to that which is presently contained in the congregation's proposed constitution. I am not sure, however, that the statement in brackets is helpful and should be shared with the congregation. Obviously, all should submit to the Word. But because submission to the Word always involves an understanding or interpretation of that Word, it immediately raises the question of who determines what the correct interpretation or understanding is. I would assume that somehow the congregation is involved in that process also. If I were making a suggestion to the congregation, I would merely offer the substitute wording and let it go at that. If any reason is needed, I would simply state that the wording which the