# LCMS Commission on Constitutional Matters Minutes_St. Louis Missouri_April 29 1983_S6 # Machine transcription, uncorrected — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) Ov. 5-85 - This would require the setting aside of the provisions for receiving individuals into membership (Herman Otten case). Ov. 5-87 - It is doubtful whether all of the references to Christian education as formerly found in the Handbook really belong in a constitutional document. Other boards and departments do not have philosophical or theological statements incorporated into their bylaws. Ov, 5-90 - To initiate an of f ice of "Called Lay Minister" seems to be a contradiction in terms as well as a constitutional contradiction. Generally speaking, the Commission found itself favorably disposed especially toward the following overture proposals, in addition to the reports in Section 5 of the Workbook: Ov. 5-23A- To Include Directors of Christian Education as Members of the Synod Ov. 5-27 - Uniform Practices in Teacher Colloquy Programs Ov. 5-38 - To Classify Ministers of Religion Ov. 5-40 - Allowing Each Congregation in a Multiple Parish to Vote in District Conventions Ov. 5-46 - To List Age Requirements for Youth Members of Board for Youth Services Ov. 5-75 - The Use of "Hierarchical" for Legal Purposes Ov. 5-77A- To Allow Six-Year Terms for District Board Members Ov. 5-81A- To Refrain from Removing Names from Call Lists Ov. 5-82 - To Add LCEF to Bylaw 8.09 a Herbert Mueller, Secretary Minutes of the Commission on Constitutional Matters - May 27-30, 1983 167. The Commission met at various times during the floor committee meetings and was asked to rule on several questions. 168. Suspension of Bylaws: The Commission ruled that bylaws cannot be suspended, but that a new bylaw setting forth the time segment to be covered and specific provisions must be adopted. This was in answer to a request from Committee 4. 169. Hierarchy: At various times Gene Schnelz, Kermit Brashear, and the undersigned were involved with Legal Counsel Draheim and an attorney on Committee 5 in drafting a resolution addressing itself to the polity question (hierarchical vs. congregational).