# LCMS Commission on Constitutional Matters Minutes_St. Louis Missouri_August 21 22 1974_S4 # Machine transcription, uncorrected — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) 220. Pres. Riedel on Seminex Ordinations, etc. (Ag. 652): This letter was duly noted; no action was deemed necessary. Donald E. Prevallet, Secretary pro tem 221. It was necessary for Prevallet to absent himself on the second day. Secretary Mueller joined the group at 11:00 a.m. 222. Appeal of Dr. Jacobs re Sari Francisco Night Ministry (Ag: 671): In taking up Pres. Jacobs' request that the CCM reconsider its recent ruling the CCM went thru its files quite thoroughly. This search yielded the following results: When the Commission reached its original decision in 1968 not all of the relevant facts were available to it. The original decision was based on the understanding that the "Night Ministry" was primarily an emergency ministry to those contemplating suicide. There was no reference in Pres. Jacobs' letter of May 27, 1968 to the preaching of the Gospel. On July 26, 1972 Dr. Mueller wrote Pastor Grunow,"The Commission resolved to inform you that its ruling had been made several years ago on the basis of the information that this ministry would be strictly a social ministry project and would not be a preaching or teaching ministry involving the. proclamation of the Word of God." In a letter dated November 30, 1972 Dr. Jacobs stated "The Committee on Mission and Ministry met with the Rev. William Grunow on October 31, 1972. We agreed that the Night Ministry is the endeavor on the part of several Christian church bodies to bring help and hope including the message of the Gospel (underlining ours) to a people who otherwise might never come in contact with the church." On the basis of this and similar information the Commission reached its decision of June 28 and 29, 1974. After reviewing the case, the Commission resolved.to ask Pastor Luessenhop to go to San Francisco to meet with President Jacobs, Pastor Grunow, Dr. Arthur Nitz, and the Rev. Donald Stuart. He is to attempt to meet with President Jacobs, Pastor Grunow, and Dr. Nitz in a joint meeting of the three. One topic to be discussed is, what is a Gospel ministry? What is meant by the Gospel ministry being conducted by the San Francisco Night Ministry? He is to ask President Jacobs to give a concrete example of what he regards as a procedure contrary to Article VI, 2 of the synodical Constitution. Pastor Luessenhop is also to discuss in a fraternal way with President Jacobs the news releases and the implied charges he has made against the CCM. Mr. Freise is to participate in the meetings if he can attend them. 223. Request of Dr. Paul A. Zimmerman (Ag. 681): It was resolved to ratify the letter which Secretary Mueller sent on August 8, 1974 to Dr. Paul A. Zimmerman. 224. Seminex Faculty Members as Advisory Members (AR. 657 & 687): It was resolved to point out that members of the faculty of Seminex are advisory members of the Synod since they will qualify either under point 3 or point 6 of Article V, b. They may therefore be elected as advisory delegates to the Anaheim convention under section 1.57 of the bylaws. However, the Commission pointed out that they are not eligible to attend the Anaheim convention as advisory representatives under Handbook section 1.61, b. 225. English District Resolutions (Ag. 677): Secretary Mueller called attention to the resolution of the 1974 English District convention, declaring a number of synodical resolutions "null and void." He pointed