# LCMS Commission on Constitutional Matters Minutes_St. Louis Missouri_March 22 23 1974_S1
# Machine transcription, uncorrected — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration)

38. Ewald Otto Questions Re Procedures (Ag. 474): Several months earlier Ewald Otto, chairman of the
Board of Control of Concordia Seminary, St. Louis, had addressed quite a number of questions to the
Commission. The Commission had postponed consideration of two questions, namely, whether the rules
of procedure in Bylaw 5.31 did or did not apply when the Board of Control takes the place of the
Commission of Adjudication. The Commission ruled that the provisions of Bylaw 5.31 do indeed apply
when the Board of Control has decided to proceed under Section 6.79d.
39. Constitutionality of New Orleans Convention Resolutions (Ag. 495, 485, 450, 451, 462, 487B, etc.):
Considerable time was spent on the last afternoon considering this vexing question in its various aspects.
Elmer Luessenhop and Herbert Mueller had prepared "devil's advocates" papers setting forth what they
regarded as differing positions which could be considered as perhaps the two opposing approaches to
these questions. These papers were read and discussed. Members were asked to take both under
advisement, to give further attention to them, with perhaps even a view toward finding new approaches.
The meeting adjourned shortly after 5:00 with a blessing by the Secretary.
Herbert Mueller, Secretary

MINUTES OF MEETING OF COMMISSION ON CONSTITUTIONAL MATTERS
March 22-23, 1974 - St. Louis, Missouri
40. The meeting opened at 9:00 a.m. in Room A, 6th floor, MAC, with prayer by Prevallet.
41. Chairman Luessenhop announced that Secretary Mueller would be delayed as a result of the COP
meeting in Chicago.
42. The minutes of the last meeting were approved as presented and previously forwarded to the
members.
43. Rohlfing Objection to Certification Letter (Ag. 543): This item was noted and considered with no
action.
44. Baumgaertner Objection to Same (Ag. 544): This item was noted.
45. CTCR Request Re Article VI and VII (Ag. 488): This item was considered for approximately one
hour at which time a rough draft was proposed and then tabled for reconsideration following presentation
in typewritten form. See 60.
46. Signing Congregational Constitutions (Ag. 503): Motion made, seconded, and carried to ratify reply
of Secretary.
47. Guebert Reaction to "Dissent" Opinion (Ag. 506): Considered at length with motion made, seconded
and carried to table until later in day following presentation of rough draft. See 61.
48. River Forest Rulings (Ag. 490A): Motion made, seconded, and carried to ratify letter to Hahn from
Secretary.
49. Retired Pastors and Teachers as Delegates (AR. 527): Motion made, seconded, and carried. to ratify
letter from Dr. Mueller to Winter.