# LCMS Commission on Constitutional Matters Minutes_St. Louis Missouri_June 7 8 1973_S4 # Machine transcription, uncorrected — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) cases the congregation may side with the pastor and feel that the District is being unduly harsh. In such a case the congregation obviously would not suspend or depose its pastor. Neither the Synod nor the District can suspend the man from his office as pastor of the congregation, only the congregation can do that. It is obvious, however, that if the synodical suspension finally becomes expulsion, then the congregation, after a decent interval of time, must make up its mind whether it wishes to depose its pastor and continue its membership in the Synod or whether it wishes to retain its pastor and forfeit its membership in the Synod. The commission ratified this reply. 288. Affiliation with State Council of Churches (Ex. 443): President Fred Niedner had asked the Secretary whether the affiliation of the Nebraska District with the state Council of Churches was permissible. The Commission resolved to reply that it had no information on the nature of the Nebraska Council, not having seen a copy of its constitution, but that it hopes that Exhibits F and G of the CTCR report to the New Orleans convention would give the Nebraska District sufficient guidance to answer this question. 289. Guidance in the Formation of Various District Commissions of Adjudication (Ag. 423, 425, 428, 429): The Southern, English, Northwest, and Oklahoma Districts had asked for guidance in restructuring its District Commissions of Adjudication since they had failed to do so at the previous District conventions. In each instance the Commission formally ratified the reply which Secretary Mueller had sent with the understanding, however, that it might be better not to reveal this fact in the case of the Oklahoma situation, since there might be further correspondence in this particular case as a result of the fact that that District has only one holdover member of the District Board of Appeals. 290. CCM Request of CTCR for Study on Church Relations and Definitions of Theological Terms in the Constitution (Ag. 397, 397A, to F): It was reported that no definite action had been received as yet from the CTCR. 291. Opinion Re Doctrinal Resolutions (Ag. 445): Through Sommermeyer President Ressmeyer of the Atlantic District OW asked the Commission whether a statement which he had drafted regarding the status of doctrinal resolutions was constitutionally correct. The Commission decided to inform him that it concludes that while one may well agree in general terms with the statement the Commission holds that there are other dimensions that need to be added to the picture, and that the 1973 convention itself has a number of overtures before it to define more precisely the status of doctrinal resolutions. The commission expresses the hope that the New Orleans convention will make progress in this area which has been troubling the church. 292. Protest Over Inclusion of Overtures in Workbook (Ag. 435): President Robert Riedel of the New England District had asked the Commission on Constitutional Matters to rule whether a long list of overtures concerning doctrinal matters should really be included in the Workbook as part of the agenda of the convention. He personally was protesting the inclusion of these resolutions. The commission concluded that the Synod has always considered such overtures. The important thing is what the Synod decides to do with such overtures. That was the situation with reference to Resolution 9 of the San Francisco convention to which President Riedel refers. The overtures were not improper but the convention resolution was ultimately declared unconstitutional because the objectives of Resolution 9 could not be achieved through a simple resolution of the convention but required a constitutional amendment, and steps to provide for such a constitutional amendment had not been taken. 293. Further Consideration of Acceptance of Overtures (Ag 446): This prompted Sommermeyer to ask that the commission consider carefully Bylaw 1.27 c, because on the basis of the literal wording many overtures could and perhaps should be excluded from convention consideration. It was generally felt that this bylaw needed to be rewritten. But it was agreed that it would be better to place this on the docket