# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_Februar 1857_S62 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) 62 Church-Contemporary Matters. ...our conviction, the Elder lacks religion; if he is revived anew, even before he leaves our city, he may feel very grateful for it. It is altogether far too much "Knapp" and far too little of the simple, humble Redeemer in his sermons; too much "bite, or be damned!" — too much vinegar, too little honey." — When will the American sect-preachers finally realize that the excitements they produce are not yet conversions, and therefore return to the old, established measures of the Christian Church? When will they finally realize that one cannot announce and hawk conversions in the newspapers like ready-made merchandise? When will the people finally discover that often the most unruly zealots for conversion in the pulpits are themselves the most unconverted of men — clouds without water, carried about by the wind, bare, unfruitful trees, twice dead, plucked up by the roots — Jude 12-13. Preachers' Seminary. The proposal of Dr. Kurtz, already mentioned in "Lehre und Wehre" in last year's December issue, that an institution be established alongside the Gettysburg Seminary in which older men might be more practically prepared for the ministry, is moving more and more toward its realization. The institution, styled the Missionary Institute of the Ev. Luth. Church, is to be placed in Baltimore County, Md. As regards participation in the work — according to the "Statutes for the Government" already drafted, only synods standing in connection with the General Synod may enjoy it; candidates coming forth from the institution are not permitted, without the consent of the synod under whose oversight they stood as seminarians, to attach themselves to another ecclesiastical body and there seek a preaching license. We fear that this life-prolonging medicine will not, after all, take effect for the dear General Synod, which itself perceives that its days are numbered. Exist, indeed vegetate, it may still for some time, but as for life, that is over. The time of ignorance God may well overlook, and may meanwhile also give blessing to him who errs in simplicity; but when the night has passed and the day has come, then he too must put on the weapons of the light, or he makes war against God. Papist Orthodoxy and Consistency. So we read in the Oertel Catholic Kirchenzeitung of New York, of January 22 of this year: "Protestantism itself is, by its own principle, branded with a supremely reprehensible injustice; for if it is true that one can be saved through every Christian confession, and thus also through the Catholic doctrine, then to what purpose were the Reformation and all the evils which the splitting of the faith has brought upon Christendom? It is otherwise, however, with the Catholic Church. She teaches according to the word of Christ: he that believeth not shall be damned. (Mark 16:16.) She teaches further that faith is a saving faith only when it embraces the full truth revealed by Christ." A few lines further down it says in the same article: "The Church would fall into contradiction with herself if she wished to damn, or declare damned, any living person. For she does indeed teach — grounded on God's word (!!) — that even heathens can be saved under certain conditions, namely when they are in blameless ignorance of the Christian truth and faithfully fulfill the natural law." Mr. Oertel hereby proves again, as so often, that he knows neither the doctrine of the Protestants nor that of the Roman Church, or that he is a wretched Jesuit who writes otherwise than he thinks; or he proves both thereby. Does he know, or does he not know, that according to truly Protestant doctrine people are indeed saved in the various Christian — even erring — communions, yet not through the false faith of these erring communions, but through the one faith that alone brings salvation, which many carry in their hearts despite their false church? That, on the other hand, Roman pseudo-theologians at one time say that one can be saved only through the Roman superstition, but then again that nevertheless even a devout heathen may indeed be saved — this is true; for indeed the grossest Pelagianism is found united, as artfully as intimately, with a constant chatter about the faith that alone brings salvation, in the Papacy