# LCMS Convention Proceedings_St. Louis Missouri_1850_S147 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) — 147 — [stuck in false doctrine]. I answered him that he must first prove this. He said he had no time for that now, could only negotiate with us before his church council, but would have me called before it the following Monday. This then took place, and so on Monday evening I went to his house, accompanied by the three men in whose hearing he had accused me of false doctrine, and by another impartial witness, Mr. Sommer, a mission student. There, however, he would not allow at all that these three men be present, and was also altogether unwilling to enter into proof of his harsh accusation against me, but said instead that I had been summoned to be told that I had no further business here. I declared to him and to the few members still siding with him, who along with the council were present, that this was unchristian and dishonest, and insisted that he must prove to me wherein I taught falsely. But no one would hear me; indeed, Pastor Winkler fell into such a rage that he shoved me three times on the chest with his arm. After I had once more testified that a great wrong was being done to me, but all words of kindness and earnestness were wasted on Winkler, we went on with heavy hearts. To try the utmost, I wrote him an urgent letter the following day, hoping he might perhaps have grown calmer overnight. In it I asked him to grant me a conversation in the presence of Mr. Sommer, who delivered the letter by hand, so that, with God's help, I might bring him to a recognition of his great sin and injustice toward me and of his insincerity in this whole matter. He would not accept the letter at all, not even after Mr. Sommer had briefly conveyed its content to him, but sent it back to me unopened. Since it had now, after long patience, become most certainly plain that Mr. Winkler would in no way allow the complaining part of his congregation, troubled in conscience, to bring the matter before an impartial, orthodox committee in which they could have placed their confidence, nothing remained for them but to renounce him. This they did in due form, citing three important reasons: 1. That Pastor Winkler had, for more than a year, on many repeated occasions, been guilty of abominable abuse of the ban, in that he acted in this not according to the divine order clearly prescribed in Matthew 18, but arbitrarily, thereby showing himself, as in other respects too, in many ways domineering, contrary to 1 Peter 5; 2. That he did not accept the representations his congregation members were obliged, for conscience's sake, to make to him, but instead twisted them and presented them as an accusation being brought against him. 3. That when they agreed to his proposal and wished to bring the matter before an honest, competent, confessionally faithful church tribunal and have it decided according to God's Word, and had long since brought forward their part of the committee to be formed, he thwarted every attempt to bring such a tribunal about, and at last, after more than a month and a half of waiting, showed himself fully to be one who will by no means come into the light, because his deeds are evil. (NB.) Pastor Winkler has also made himself guilty of the sin of breaking the congregation's own constitution. Signed, August Crämer.