# LCMS Convention Proceedings_St. Louis Missouri_1848_S55 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) — 55 — ...does not thereby become invalid itself. It is more advisable, however, if the pastor is informed beforehand who those are who are to be invited to this act. — But if the question is asked whether the erring in faith are also to be admitted, one must carefully distinguish whether they are incorrigible, blasphemers, and open scoffers, or whether they will let themselves be taught and instructed. Not the former but the latter we hold to be admissible, for by their presence they approve our baptism, and thereby acknowledge the church's presence among us, and can be won over. In this case, too, the child is not thereby bound to the erring religion; rather, the sponsor of erring faith obligates himself instead to the faith and confession of the Apostles' Creed. If, accordingly, the observance of a custom which in itself belongs among the things indifferent [adiaphora] neither adds anything to nor takes anything from baptism itself — and if, further, the worthiness or unworthiness of the baptizer himself neither helps nor harms — then still less can the error of the sponsors do the sacrament any injury. One should therefore have regard for the simple, the weak, and those in whom there is hope of improvement, and not always let sharpness and the strictest right prevail, especially where time, place, person, and other circumstances speak for it and there is no danger of giving offense." Regarding weddings, the committee is convinced that, barring forbidden degrees of kinship that would render a marriage altogether impermissible (which is not the question here), a minister of the church cannot refuse the blessing of marriage even to those who do not belong to the church, because marriage is not a means of grace that Christ gave only to his church, but a divine institution for all people, and because God has pronounced his blessing on this estate in general. The committee appends a relevant "opinion" [Bedenken] of Spener's on this, Book 4, p. 694: "Thus it (the minister's act at a wedding) consists in nothing other than that, in God's name, the marriage which the persons have contracted between themselves is thereby confirmed, so that they shall live together undivided all their days, and their cohabitation be distinguished from other unmarried commingling and vaga libidine [vague lust]; and that it — provided it otherwise takes place in reverence for Him — is not displeasing to God. This I cannot, in itself, regard as an evangelical means of grace; for God wills such a separation of marriage from other extramarital commingling among the whole human race, and so willingly lends his name to the execution of his own institution — though I readily admit that this general divine order is [additionally] sanctified among believers. Meanwhile the first point alone is enough, that I may, without profaning the divine name, marry couples who stand outside of grace as well. As for the blessing, it is offered in the name of the Lord; if the people then render themselves incapable [of receiving it], the fault is theirs, and our peace returns to us. Matt. 10:13." Now, as Pastor Hattstädt further asks how funeral sermons are to be handled, the committee sets forth the following as its conviction: those heretics who obstinately defend and spread their errors and revile the truth should, according to the general judgment of our old theologians, not be buried with our church ceremonies. But if the erring in faith are such as have erred in some points of Christian truth out of mere ignorance, yet at their death relied on Christ and his merit alone, then a Christian...