# LCMS Convention Proceedings_St. Louis Missouri_1848_S54 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) — 54 — Letter to Pastor W. Hattstädt. The Eighth Committee, charged with answering Pastor W. Hattstädt's question whether he might undertake baptisms, weddings, and funeral sermons when approached to do so by former members who have since withdrawn from his congregation, presented the synod with its opinion on the matter, which was adopted by the synod with approval. As to the baptism of such people's children, the question must first be answered "yes," since here only the command of the Lord Christ, that the children should be baptized, and the children's great need are to be considered. An important testimony on this may be found in what Hartmann says on the subject in his Pastorale Evangelicum, Book 3, Chapter 26, § 13: "Thus a minister of the Word may also baptize the children of heretics, provided the latter do not declare that, by their paternal authority (which they retain), they will raise their children in their heresy, and do not demand that any alteration (correctio) be made in the act of baptism itself. A distinction must, however, be made as to whether the heresy concerns the essential elements of baptism or only the non-essential ones. Baptism is to be administered not to the children of the former heretics, but to the children of the latter, because the children of those heretics who retain the essential elements of baptism are born within the church; for where true baptism is, there is also the true church, and every child that is within the church should be baptized. Hence the children of an apostate who still lives within the parish are likewise to be baptized, since the refusal of baptism is no fitting means of bringing a person back and converting him, nor should the son bear the father's wrongdoing (Ezek. 18:20). Indeed, even the children of the excommunicated are to be admitted to baptism, although some of the stricter Reformed mock this." Further, the following passage from the old Saxon Church Order is found in an opinion of the Wittenberg theological faculty from the year 1619: "No pastor or minister shall, on account of the parents' sin and impenitence, delay (that is, put off) the holy baptism of the little children, or else let them lie unbaptized altogether and die." Although Pastor Hattstädt makes no mention of baptismal sponsors in his question, the committee nonetheless considers it fitting to present, on this occasion, a further testimony on that subject from the work cited above, Book 3, Chapter 27. There it says: "As to what baptismal witnesses [sponsors] are to be chosen and admitted, this too should now be treated: namely, with regard to age, not children (infantes) or persons too young (juvenculi), but such as understand the mystery of this sacrament and the reasons why they are taken on as sponsors, and can duly fulfill their duty; and with regard to conduct, not persons manifestly vicious (1 Cor. 5:11; 2 Thess. 3:6), but upright persons who will take care for the instruction and upbringing of the children. But if, through the parents' lack of understanding or some other cause, the opposite should occur, the sponsors are not to be turned away at the act itself; rather, if it can be done, the sponsor should first be admonished to well consider both the importance of the task he is to carry out and the gravity of the sin into which he would fall (should he persist in impenitence and still wish to be a sponsor) — although, should such an ungodly person actually have been admitted, this would nonetheless...