# LCMS Convention Proceedings_St. Louis Missouri_1847_S10 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) — 10 — finally, that individual pastors, while belonging to no synodical association, had conferred ordination on other lawfully called servants of the church, prompted the synod to charge the secretary, in consultation with Pastor A. Ernst, to answer him by letter in the synod's name; the secretary was, however, later relieved of this task — given to him in his absence — at his own request, and its execution was transferred to Pastor Fürbringer. Finally the synod expressed its joy over the keen interest that Pastor Leonhardt had taken in the synod's affairs, as his valuable submission testified. The committee to which Pastor J. E. Schneider's letter had been referred now gave its report, as a result of which Pastor G. H. Löber was charged with writing to him and giving him advice, and also with urging him to take the appropriate steps to obtain ecclesiastical ordination. The committee charged with examining Pastor Geyer's proposal and conferring with him and his companion Mr. Hökendorf also now discharged its assignment. From this committee's report the following results emerged: a.) Pastor Geyer declared the expression used in the introduction to the synodical constitution — "a sound constitution, not contrary to Scripture, also contributes its part to the church's welfare" — to be unbiblical, and in the essay he submitted against the constitution he advanced the claims: 1) that congregations with their ministers did not have the liberty to enter into a synodical association by means of annual gatherings and the like, since there was lacking for this an explicit command of God and a promise of God bound up with it; 2) that, contrary to what our constitution, Chapter I, Section 1, claims, we did not have in the passage Acts 15 a model from apostolic times for our constitution. b.) On the first claim, under 1, the committee pointed out that, according to the doctrine of Christian liberty, what God has neither commanded nor forbidden cannot be made into sin; that external arrangements therefore lie within the power both of an individual congregation and of a body of congregations together; and that a general command of God, on which our synodical order in fact rests, lies in the apostolic words: "Be diligent to keep the unity of the Spirit!" — "Let all things be done decently and in order!" On the second claim it was answered that that passage does contain a model for us insofar as it shows how the congregations at Antioch and Jerusalem entered into church fellowship by free choice, and that, if those congregations had the liberty to hold a council together to deliberate on doctrine and ceremonies, it must likewise be open to us to assemble for similar purposes, if possible annually. c.) Although Pastor Geyer could offer no reply to any of this from God's Word, he nevertheless persisted in his claim, while his delegate, Mr. Hökendorf, allowed the committee's grounds to stand to such a degree that he withdrew the objection made under 1 against the constitution. Since this first objection was the main ground on which the rest rested, the committee, faced with Pastor Geyer's firm persistence in the pronouncement he had once made, could do nothing further than finally urge him to examine the whole matter once more, earnestly, before God.