# Lehre und Wehre_St. Louis Missouri_Juni 1856_S169 # AI translation — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) "In, With, and Under." 169 ...it was united with it. But as certain as this is, so undoubtedly fitting and correct, then, is the Lutheran paraphrase of the Lord's words: In, with, and under the bread and wine, the body and blood of Christ are present in the Holy Supper. This is the self-evident periphrasis of a comprehensive and exhibitive manner of speaking which the Lord employs here. Were someone to hand us a purse with the words, "Here, take it, this is the money I promised you," everyone would recognize and acknowledge as entirely correct, and as the only natural one, the logical paraphrase of these words: "Here, take it; in this purse is the money; with this purse, and under the form of this purse, you receive the money I promised you." Yes, it is said, precisely such examples show that in the paraphrase of the Lord's words by the particles "in, with, and under," the doctrine of consubstantiation or impanation is expressed. For if the Lord's body is in the blessed bread, and his blood in the blessed wine, the way the money is in the purse, what else is that but impanation? — But one is mistaken. We Lutherans do indeed maintain that, just as the words "this is money" must be paraphrased by the sentence "in the purse is money," so too these words, "this is my body," may be paraphrased by the sentence "in the bread is the body of Jesus Christ"; we do indeed maintain, then, that the body of Jesus Christ is in the bread just as truly as the money is in the purse — but we do not maintain that the body of Jesus Christ is in the bread in the same way that the money is in the purse, namely, in a local manner, one that gives and takes up space. Or can it only be said that one thing is in another when it is spatially therein? Does not the Holy Spirit say: "God was in Christ"? (2 Cor. 5:19.) "That Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith"? (Eph. 3:17.) "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?" (1 Cor. 3:16.) Does not Christ himself say: "Believe me, that I am in the Father, and the Father in me"? (John 14:11.) — But will it occur to anyone, on account of the little word "in" used here, to suppose that the Father is in the Son and the Son in the Father, and that Christ and the Holy Spirit are in believers, in that crude, spatial manner? — Certainly not! — In Holy Scripture, however, one finds not only the use of the particle "in" (for this particle seems to our opponents to be the most offensive of the three used by the Lutherans in the doctrine of the Holy Supper) to designate a presence of a wholly different, non-spatial kind, namely one incomprehensible to us; but wholly analogous statements, such as this one, "this is my body," are also expressly paraphrased in Holy Scripture by these same particles. For example, at 1 John 5:20 it says: "This one" — namely, Christ — "is the true God." And at Matt. 3:17: "This is my beloved Son." Elsewhere, however, we read the following paraphrases of these statements: "God was in Christ." (2 Cor. 5:19.)