# LCMS Convention Proceedings_St. Louis Missouri_1983_S180 # Machine transcription, uncorrected — CHI Digital Archive (demonstration) 180 RESOLUTIONS . Parish Worker . Parish Assistant . Director of Evangelism . Persons who otherwise qualify for Minister of Religion classification but who choose not to apply Classification open to men and women Must be a member of a congregation which is a member of the Synod; and & Or m CO B. WHEREAS, New categories of workers for the church have arisen without direction from the Synod; therefore be it Resolved, That the Synod in convention shall designate, upon recommendation of the Board for Professional Education Services, any further addition of categories of church workers; and be it further Resolved, That the BPES designate which schools are to give the terminal years of preparation to the newly developed category(ies); and be it further Resolved, That lists of such workers and transfers from one District to another be the responsibility of the District President; and be it finally Resolved, That workers in the categories to be developed be granted the privilege of receiving services and supervision rendered by the office of the District President. Action: Adopted (8). (Discussion was begun in Session 7. In Session 8 discussion was continued. At the automatic call of the question after 30 minutes the convention voted to cease debate on the issue. The Chair held that because of a previous statement amendments to the resolution would still be considered beyond this point. Theruling of the Chair was appealed and the delegates did not sustain the Chair. The resolution was then adopted. In the later stages of the discussion of this resolution, 5-09A, in Session 8, a delegate raised three questions, as follows: Delegate: “First question: ‘Is the office—I’m talking about how we interpret this particular resolution—is the office of the public ministry equivalent to the pastoral office, or is the pastoral office only one of the various positions created within the Synod as we read in the third whereas?’ Second question is, ‘Is the office of the public ministry equivalent to what the resolution calls ministers of religion, ordained?’ and the next question is, ‘Is the office of the public ministry held by called and ordained pastors only or do others such as men and women teachers or DCE’s also hold the office of the public ministry?’ Those are my questions.” Nafzger: “To answer the last question first, the CTCR document would say that those who hold the office of teacher or DCE do not hold the office of the public ministry. The way the term office of public ministry is used in the CTCR document is used to refer to what we normally today call pastors, or the pastoral office. I’ve forgotten the second question. What was the middle question?” Delegate: “It has to do with whether the word ‘minister of religion, ordained,’ refers to the office of the public ministry.” Nafzger: “Yes.” Delegate: “Are those two equivalent?” Nafzger: “Yes, office of public ministry refers to the first category, minister of religion, ordained, and that category only.” Delegate: “Does it refer to this in the resolution itself?” Nafzger: “The third whereas states, ‘WHEREAS, The Lu- theran Church—Missouri Synod recognizes that all these functions belong to the one office, even though it may be performed in greater or lesser degree in various positions,’ is referring to that one divinely instituted office called the office of public ministry.” : Delegate: “I want to thank you very much for that answer, and Idlike to say that if we understand this resolution the way Dr. Nafzger has explained it, what we’re distinguishing - between is the office of the public ministry, which is the pastoral office, which is ministers of religion, ordained, on the one hand, and ministers of religion, commissioned; on the other. I would like to suggest, since I can’t move, that somebody make a motion that this be put into the official minutes of this convention so that no misunderstanding can come about at a future time.” After further speakers had been heard, another delegate raised the question: “I would like some information. Pastor requested that that explanation by Rev. Nafzger be entered into the minutes. Will that just simply be routinely done now, as a result of that request?” After further conversa- tion Dr. Bohlmann replied: “The Chair will order it. If there’s no objection, we’ll just take it on general consent of the assembly.” After the assembly had voted to close debate on the entire resolution a third delegate raised the following point of information: “Dr. Nafzger, in answering a question earlier, stated, discussing the office of the public ministry with respect to the CTCR document. My question is: Does that, in his ‘answer, does that reflect the official position of the Synod?” “Dr. Nafzger’s reply was: “When the Commission completed its work on the Office of the Ministry: Procedures, Nomencla- ture, Offices, it appended the theses of Walther which were adopted by the Synod in 1851, because it regarded what it said about the ministry as being consistent with the official position of the Synod on the doctrine of the ministry as set forth in those theses.” A fourth delegate raised the additional point of information: “On page 177, the second resolve—correct me if my under- standing of this—it seems to imply when it says emphatically that both ministers of religion, ordained, and ministers of religion, commissioned, then the last line, next to the last line, says all these functions contribute vitally to discharging the office of the public ministry. Does—my question is—does this, or does it not, make the women teachers discharging the office of the public ministry?” The chairman of the committee replied: “The committee says it is of the opinion that this does not make them eligible for such action.” Dr. Bohlmann then asked, “Dr. Nafzger, what would your Commission’s response be?” Dr. Nafzger replied: “I think this resolve is building on the CTCR’s statement in its report on the ministry that while teachers do not hold the office of the public ministry, they do carry out certain functions of the office of the public ministry.” A fifth delegate raised the following point of information: “Yd like to ask Dr. Nafzger to clarify the previous point of information that he answered when someone asked him whether this was the official position of the Synod. He said Walther’s theses were appended, and therefore they considered it to be. I believe that our own Synod’s Constitution requires the convention and the congregations of the Synod to state whether something is the official position of the Synod before someone can assume that it is. Would Dr. Nafzger please clarify that?” Dr. Nafzger replied: “Certainly in agreement with the speaker. All I said was that the CTCR felt that its report was consistent with the official position and it held, whenever it reviewed on behalf of the Board of Directors this proposal, that this proposal was consistent with the official position as stated in those theses.” After the resolution had been adopted a sixth delegate, after some introductory remarks, moved “that in the official Proceed- ings you place an asterisk immediately following the adoption of this resolution, and then it clearly be stated that there was a motion from the floor, seconded, and assuming it’s passed, that the original remarks of Dr. Nafzger be included verbatim at that point in the official Proceedings. And that the motion specifically provide that it was made in order to avoid any future misunderstanding, misinterpretation, or misapplication of the motion.” To this Dr. Bohlmann replied: “The Chair has already